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Installing new window heaters!

Thursday, December 3rd, 2009

Guest post by Kevin Ahern

I was a bit tongue in cheek when I asked Matthew to host the poll to assess peoples’ perception of the window energy rating scheme, and although the voting numbers were never going to be argued as definitive, it could possibly be a good snapshot of the way some of the industry folk are feeling.

Currently (at 32 votes total) the most interesting response shows that 34% answered that they did not believe that an A rated window was a net heater of a house.

A Rated Windows

That surely is quite a remarkable figure that shows a lack of faith in the flagship energy appraisal system from the BFRC.

I would expect to see a good response from the believers in the domestic double glazing industry as the rating scheme is after all, sales based and (I’ve heard it said) salesmen are the easiest to sell to, because they believe in the sales methods! But only half of the responses are believers of the window energy rating claims.

I am a pleasantly surprised by the lack of votes for the third category, being cynical of the way a lot of the industry works I expected a few more votes in the ‘extra margin’ box.

So come on, put your clicks where it counts, maybe my cynicism prevented a genuine ‘I haven’t got a clue’ option, but put your thinking caps on and work it out, or just put click for your gut feeling, you never know it might be right!

If you want to, you can use this blog to say which way you voted, and why, or even say if you would have been a genuine undecided.

Remember, your vote counts!

Kevin Ahern

5 things window companies should do, but don’t.

Sunday, November 29th, 2009

When I travel around the country talking to potential dealers, I often get frustrated with how unprofessional many of them are. I see countless things that they are doing wrong.

Here’s five of them:

1. Price jobs on the night

I understand that on certain occasions a job may be more complicated than usual. Maybe, there are unusual building requirements. Maybe the customer requires pink frames with yellow sashes and it’s just not that easy to price up.

But, in the vast majority of instances, a well constructed price list is sufficient to provide reasonably accurate prices. I can never understand why a salesman would build up desire in a customer, and then leave the customer to post a quote on. I realise it works for some salesmen if they are skilled at keeping in touch with their customers or in setting up a follow up meeting. However, on the whole, the better conversion rates are achieved by sales staff who price there and then.

Normally our industry is renowned for the ‘hard sell’ but I regularly see instances of the exact opposite. Not pricing on the night is leaving the job open for competitors to steal the work with a more sophisticated sales pitch. People don’t like pushy, but they do like to see someone keen for the work, so give your best price and ask for the work!

2. Offer Finance

Following on from the above. These are challenging times, and borrowing money from banks and building societies is not as easy as it used to be.

By not having a facility where you can help potential customers with a finance solution if they need it is just doesn’t make sense. I’m not saying that you should be pushing finance on every customer, as it would in most instances be inappropriate, but it’s a very handy sales tool.

3. Advertise in the right place

If I was running a window company I would not advertise in free newspapers. What’s the point? All the cheap competitors advertise there, so why get your company caught up in fighting for work on price. Also, newspapers are a dying advertising medium.

Likewise, the Yellow Pages and Thomson local Directories are being used less and less. People go online instead. By all means have a token advert for people looking for you, but I wouldn’t waste money here myself.

Another good place to waste money is advertising on the radio. It might be good for building brand awareness if you’ve got spare advertising budget, but if you need leads now, then I don’t think radio is the way forward.

I’ve made all these mistakes myself, and am convinced that there are far more effective ways to advertise.

4. Incentivise staff

I regularly witness installation companies grumbling about employed fitters taking 3-5 days to install standard conservatories. It’s a great selling point stating that all the guys are on the books, but the reality is that the best fitters are self employed.

The same applies to sales staff. The very best sales professionals are commission based, and need to sell to generate a reasonable income. They don’t necessarily have to be commission only, but a degree of commission or bonus as part of the package will certainly encourage a sales person to work harder.

For an installation company, the ability to pay sales staff and fitters only when they perform well allows for the peaks and troughs of consumer demand. Having too many fixed overhead staff does not suit this industry.

5. Create the right image

I hate to see fitters with silicone all over their work clothes, tattoos and piercings. It sends out the wrong message. I also hate to see scruffy, dirty vans. Fitters are representing the company and allowing them to turn up looking like a scarecrow is not good business sense.

Likewise, sales staff need to create the right image at the point of sale. For me, a balance between smart and casual works best. Having sales staff turning up in sports cars with Armani suits is not the way to go as consumers automatically assume they’re going to be ripped off. But you also don’t want a sales team driving around in bangers, and dressed too casual.

Guest post from a double glazing customer

Monday, November 9th, 2009

Guest post by a potential double glazing customer:

Had a double Glazing salesman round at the house on Saturday morning. I’d gone through the web pages to request a brochure and lo the phone calls started, telling me there was a team in my area and they’d be happy to pop round to give me a quote. Well, says I, “I’d love to get a quote, but I won’t be signing anything on the day”. “Oh now sir, that’s not how we work these days.” she assures me. We’ll see! Anyway, couldn’t do it the week they said there was a team in my area, but by amazing coincidence there was one im my area the following week too – how lucky am I?

Anyway, the guy appears at my door bang on time, with a big bag of brochures and a laptop and printer. 45 minutes later and we still haven’t seen a brochure, never mind had the windows measured. 1 hour in and he’s just coming back from the car with the demo material – a corner piece. At 90 minutes in he’s now retrieved the demo window with the locks. He’s assuring me that although some companies might quote about 5 grand for the windows on the front of my house, that’s far from realistic and here’s all the ways they’ll be ripping me off.

Come 12:30, we’ve finished measuring the windows and he’s putting together a great quote for me. He’d love to have one of the company vans in my street, there’s plenty people needing window replacements and I could be the one to kick off a lot of sales in the area – I’ll get a great price based on being the conduit to all these sales.

My wife is now putting on her jacket and getting the wee man ready for going over to his Grannies. At 12:45 he prints out the 1st quote just a ba’hair under £14k. I stifle a laugh… I thank him for his time and go to get my own jacket. He’s mumbling something about window scrappage scheme and Barclays finance package. I’ve got my coat on and he’s furiously typing away at the calculator.

“I can do this for you at £7900 but you’d need to sign up today and don’t tell anyone I’ve offered you this price.”

“Well, thanks for your time. We’ve got to go to the Grannies now, I’ll be in touch next week if we decide to go with you.”

“Aye, well, it’s not for everyone. Some people just can’t afford the best and take short sighted decisions due to financial constraints, I understand that”, says he in what I’m beginning to suspect is a bit of an indignant manner.

“Do you need a hand carrying your stuff back to the car?”

Now, the question I have is, why should he be shitty with me? He was supposed to take 45 minutes to demo his product and measure us up for a quote. The fact that he took 3 hours isn’t my fault. I said right up front that I was after quality and a good value for money quote. I explained to him that I was web savvy and had been doing a bit of research on double glazing. I had decent question to ask him about his product, but I’d told everyone I wouldn’t be signing up on Saturday. How disrespectful is it of him to think that I’d change my mind based on his wasting an extra 2 hours and 15 minutes of my Saturday morning? Giving me a quote that can immediately be reduced by over £6k is exactly what I told him not to do.

This is a genuine example of a customer receiving a quote for double glazing in 2009. Not 1989. But 2009! Is this acceptable? Is it time that our industry accepts this type of sales practices? Your comments are welcome (without naming names)…

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