Conservatory Builder Fights Back at Rogue Customer
Posted by Renegade Conservatory Guy on 23 Apr 2008 at 04:03 pm | Tagged as: conservatory, conservatories, Building
I was listening to Radio 2 this afternoon, and my ears pricked up when I heard the story of a builder who received permission from his local council to remove a conservatory from a house where the customer hadn’t paid up.
In this particular case, the property was a council house, hence the perturbed builder was able to approach the council and leverage their support. The customer was not unhappy with her conservatory, she just didn’t want to pay the £15,000 for it! And, she used numerous lies and tactics, such as stating her husband had recently died, in order to avoid payment.
I’m sure all owners of window and conservatory companies have come across ‘rogue customers’. We hear so much about rogue traders and cowboy builders, it’s about time we hear stories about awkward, cheating customers who try all sorts of tactics to avoid payment, or delay payment.
The stress these ‘rogue customers’ can cause to owners and employees of conservatory and window companies cannot be underestimated. Many companies just give in to avoid further hassle. It is no coincidence that on Adminbase (software for window companies) there is a ‘bastard’ button, which flags up very bad customers so the company knows never to deal with them again.
From listening to the callers to this Radio 2 show, there was a lot of support for the extreme actions of this builder.
In my experience 99% of customers are fair, and have every intention of paying on time when the job is finished satisfactorily. But for the 1% of rogue customers, I believe that companies should stand their corner as the law and the public are on their side.

This guy Nigel Gray has to be applauded.
It’s strange that most ‘rogue customers’ are habitual offenders. The feeling is that most companies will give up, as the legal root can take a year or more and consume too much time.
Now, if there was a universal list of these people?
Conversely the so called ‘rogue trader’ is the one that gets all the press. Then if you read between the lines of what happens even here when a job goes wrong. The consumer gets 10 quotes as told to them by the consumer programs, they remember the good bits from all the quotes and always by the cheapest - to repeat they always buy the cheapest.
When comparing quotes, what has price got to do with it?
Hi EveryoneI would just like to say thank you to all you people who have supported my actions at the council house in Shoreham.I am not giving up here we need to keep the story aliveto enable me to take action against the GOVERNMENT to make changes in the law ! This has to stop. ITS LEGAL CRIME as I have just found out ! I will be meeting Labour MP Gwyn Prosser on Friday 2nd May to veiw my concerns.I will need as much support as I can get in this campaign, so I have set up a web site for everyboby to join our petetion, please spread the word because untill we can get some more media coverage this will remain unknown www.roguecustomer.com lets together stop these customers taking our hard earned cash ! Once again thank you for all your support.
Matthew I had a chat with Barry Dunlop and he told me I had been added to your site, thank you. He also said that you would be interested in chat with me because you could maybe guide me in the right direction. Kind regards Nigel
Hi Nigel
Thanks for visiting my site. I have your mobile number and will ring you today. I think we can definitely work together on this campaign.
RCG
Well Conservatory Man, it looks like people are waking up to just how many rogue customers there are out there and the pitfalls in trying to get your money through the legal system.
Years ago I was robbed unmercifully by a crooked customer and I want to publicly thank both Nigel and Kevin for taking my story on board.I sincerely hope that there actions might go some way in preventing what happened to me happening to others.
For details please take a look at my website.
All the Best to You.
Colin Peters
Hello
I think this idea is briliant, we often see and hear of rogue traders, which can make us all look suspect.
As a pest controler running my own business I have been stung a few times (no pun intended. I read with interest your about your problem customers and wondered if I could use your web site to publish details about the most recent custom that owes me money for work done. Although it is only £915.00 its still work I should be paid for.
Please let me know.
Tom Keightley (Pest Control Solutions Ltd)
Hi Tom
I entirely agree - there has been so much emphasis in the media over recent years about rogue traders, that some customers tend to tar all companies with the same brush. They can then go to extremes wwhen dealing with perfectly decent honest companies, without realising the stress they are causing.
I’m not looking to create the campaign against rogue customers on this website, but if you click on the www.roguecustomer.com website, then Nigel Gray is taking things to the next level. And I’m sure he is keen to hear about your very own rogue customer!
RCG
More power to the small builders elbows.
I too have been on the wrong end of rogue customers who make all sorts of excuses regarding so called unsatisfactory quality issues. We have bent over backwards to try to satisfy some customers but I find the more “helpful” you are to people the worse they treat you and take advantage of you.
I have now ensured our contracts are completely watertight and they even state that interest WILL be applied to late payments.
Once they see this they do not tend to attempt to hold back payments.
I also have a friend in the business who informs late payers tthat he automatically refers overdue accounts to a collection agency after seven days.
Seems to work !
I think it’s a balancing act personally. There are genuine reasons why some customers withold the final payment - sometimes, things just need finishing off (snagging).
But, I agree, there are a small percentage of rogue customers who take things too far.
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