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Cold calling is a waste of time

Monday, August 23rd, 2010

Jennifer Pinch from Ultraframe floated the following question on the GlassTalk website yesterday:

I’ve just started to read a book called ‘Cold Calling Is A Waste Of Time’ because I’m curious to see what the Author has to say … what do you guys think? Are the days of cold calling over?

The question raised a few comments and I pitched in suggesting that although door knocking and tele-canvassing clearly work, I’d be quite happy to see tougher regulations to ban cold calling altogether.

However, it seems my sentiment is not shared by everyone with one of the GlassTalk members suggesting that the industry had developed from cold calling:

I wonder how many on this site started out as knockers or took leads off them as a sales rep or was the fitter that fitted the job that came from cold calling. We all loved the little toe rags then eh? Now just imagine that the bat phone stopped ringing, how long would it take YOU to get out and create some business by knocking doors again or get somebody in to do it for you? Or would you fold because you’re too proud?

I do understand his sentiment and appreciate that many people have become very rich over the years using this marketing strategy.  But it doesn’t mean it’s right and I have never condoned it in my business.

Andy Mac weighed into the discussion by suggesting that times may be changing:

I was brought up in sales cold call myself and then covering cold called leads. It is not for the feint hearted and can be a very time consuming and expensive process.

You also need to be able to sell on the night and sell finance, it takes a very different animal to sell cold called leads successfully.
Firstly who cold calls, do you get your sales people to do it? Good Luck!

Do you set up a telephone canvass room with students and other people desperate enough to sit and take the abuse they are likely to get just to earn a few quid. A good telcan room is as good as the supervisor who knows how to motivate people and also knows all the blaggs, they will try anything to get a salesman’s bum on a customers couch to earn a sit bonus, you can waste a lot of time and money and demotivate salespeople unless you know exactly what you are doing.

As for door canvass teams, multiply the problems and blagging by 10, you need a strong sales manager who is going to confirm decent leads and blow out the rubbish, the door canvass manager will then complain that the sales manager is blowing out good leads, the canvasser or their manager will the recall the customer to get the lead back on. Are you starting to get the idea about cold calling, you shouldn’t get involved unless you are extremely savvy, anyway why would you want to have all the hassle of the pro-active, scatter gun approach if you don’t need it? With the www you are much better spending your money on SEO and conversion rates on your web site, you will attract a much better quality lead and have much higher closing rates. To answer the question ‘Are the days of cold calling over’ not quite, not for the nationals like Zenith and Weatherseal but even they are spending much more on web sites now and generating leads that way, but cold calling is dying a slow death, the public are getting wiser and less likely to accept unsolicited calls.

I couldn’t agree more with Andy.  I’ve traded for 17 years without ever employing door canvassers or tele-canvassers who just use the scattergun approach.

With the internet, everything has changed.  SEO and PPC are the new door knocking and tele-canvassing.  And its power to the people as they won’t contact you unless they choose to.

And, that’s how it should be!

5 A Side Football Competition Details

Friday, August 6th, 2010

Above are copies of a PDF of the 5 A Side football competition I’m organising. If you’re interested in putting forward a team, please email me at matthew@conservatoryoutlet.co.uk and I’ll send you the original PDF and put your company on the list.

(I’m on holiday next week, so I’ll contact all companies upon my return with more details).

Game On!

Why the GGF should learn from the DGCOS

Monday, May 17th, 2010

Whatever you think about the Double Glazing and Conservatory Ombudsman Scheme (DGCOS) you can’t argue that this new organisation has made a big impact in such a short period of time. 

In the last couple of weeks there’s been high profile TV appearances, threats of legal action against the BBC, press releases and articles springing up all over the internet (including on the Energy Saving Trust website) and quite a lot of debate on the GlassTalk website (not all of which is entirely accurate).

It is very welcome news that six representatives of the DGCOS are attending GlassTalk next Thursday at Walton Hall to talk to members of our industry, some of which are confused and sceptical about the scheme (and I include myself as one of those individuals).  I have emailed Tony Pickup and suggested that I am keen to have a chat with him about the scheme to help me overcome some of the concerns I have, and I await his reply.

If the scheme is a genuine attempt to ‘repair the industry’s reputation’ then I would support it.  Why wouldn’t I?

Indeed, although I have concerns about the scheme I feel I must say how impressed I have been with the PR and marketing campaign they have employed.  And I feel the Glass and Glazing Federation (GGF), which my company is now a member of, should recognise and learn lessons from their marketing strategy.

Firstly, employing Nick Ross (the former Watchdog presenter) as the face of the DGCOS is a master stroke.  I’m confident that most consumers will see this as a safe endorsement of the DGCOS by a respected proponent in the battle against rogue traders.

The following video has a strong message for any consumer who is worried about which double glazing company to choose:

The website is well constructed also.  It is easy to navigate, designed to appeal to consumers, and will start ranking on search engines in the long run (although I doubt it is getting much search engine traffic at the moment).

Take a look at the website at www.dgcos.org.uk as it’s very good.  They’re even pushing consumers to fill their details in if they’re looking for a DGCOS accredited installer.  I assume the leads generated are passed to their nearest installer.  As a GGF member, I’m still awaiting the first lead to be passed to me, so this is a sensible move by the DGCOS.

In comparison, the GGF website is stuck in the Twentieth Century:

The GGF website is badly designed, poorly constructed and is doing NOTHING for its members.  Take a look at:

www.ggf.org.uk

Last year, I was invited to sit down with the board members of the GGF to discuss their website and I explained and demonstrated the problems with the existing website and improvements that needed making.  I recommended starting again and rebuilding the whole website in a format that ranks well on search engines, and really sells the benefits of consumers choosing a GGF member.  The ironic thing is the GGF website has a high Page Rank with some quality links to it, and with a bit of work could be top of the search engines for many of the key phrases consumers seach for.  At the moment, the GGF website will get very little traffic in comparison to websites like Conservatory Outlet, Anglian, Conservatory Land, Safestyle etc.

If the GGF website was generating leads, and demonstrating to consumers the benefits of choosing a GGF member, then both the GGF and its members would benefit.

Unfortunately, despite interest at the time (and I accept I was slow at emailing a proposal) nothing came of the meeting I had, and the GGF website has not improved in the meantime.

In light of recent developments, I feel that now is the time for the GGF to stop thinking about it and start acting.  The website needs an overhaul and this means an investment in it.  Without sounding arrogant, I feel I have more knowledge in this area than most in the industry and I offer my services and advice to the GGF if required.  The GGF website has so much untapped potential!

And, in general, the GGF needs to start leading the way in getting the message across to consumers that purchasing new windows, doors and conservatories from reputable companies is a safe and rewarding investment.

5 Ways to Make Your Conservatory Business Stand Out From the Crowd

Wednesday, September 2nd, 2009

Guest post by Dean Hunt

Imagine if you had a conservatory business that was able to get lot’s of interest, coverage and potential customers without spending a fortune.

The best way to achieve this is by standing out from the crowd.

There are some businesses that naturally attract interest, I once heard of a lady that had a business that made Rice Pudding, sounds normal enough, but here is the kicker: it was made from lactated breast milk.

In the grand scheme, the conservatory business is a little more serious and middle of the road, so standing out from he crowd can be extremely difficult.

Today I am going to share some tips that you can use to help your business stand out, get publicity, higher search engine rankings, and get many more leads.

1) Find Your Medium

We all know that publishing and content is king, but with the world of blogging, podcasting, web video, live streaming, public speaking etc… where do we start? And even more importantly, where do we find the time?

The key is to find your preferred medium and focus solely on that.

For example, if you have the gift of the gab, then blogging or any form of online writing would be a waste of your talents, equally, if you type at 5 words per minute, then blogging might not be for you, if you are badly camera shy, then blogging might be for you… etc…

Find your medium, and you will excel naturally.

2) Informative is No Longer Enough

In 2001 you could share some info online and be an immediate hit, but these days there are over 100 billion pages online, so information is no longer enough.

The truly successful experts are the people who have combined information with interesting and/or inspirational.

In a nutshell: If you can make people feel an emotion whilst giving information, you will be successful much quicker.

Which funnily enough, leads us nicely to point 3:

3) People Buy Based on Emotion and Justify Their Purchase Based on Logic

It is said that emotion in the sales decision is up to 20 times more powerful than the logical side of things.

So, when you sell a conservatory, your customers are thinking of all the fun things they could do in it, they are visualising the family events, the kids playing in there, a snooze on a warm Sunday afternoon.

If you can tap into people’s emotions, you will drastically increase your chances of success.

4) Show Behind the Scenes

We are in a reality tv society, we have seen behind the scenes of almost every job in existence, so why not tap into this phenomenon?

RCG is a great case study for this, we show our decisions, thoughts, worries, events and more. The modern business is far more transparent, whether you like it or not, tools like Twitter and Facebook mean that people can find out almost anything about you, and the faceless business no longer exists.

So why not become the voice and face of your business and let your customers see behind the curtain?

5) Network Properly

Networking is vastly misunderstood, most people think of it as schmoozing, selling themselves etc, the reality is that that is exactly how NOT to do it.

What you should be doing is create personal relationships, be helpful, friendly, polite, fun etc… long term relationships will be far more valuable than trying to make a quick buck from each person you meet.

Some people just don’t like the seminar, group, event-based aspect of business, but these days it has become a vital component in any business.

Times are a changin, and hopefully this post will give you some fresh ideas to take your conservatory business forward.

PS: feel free to send this to friends, co-workers and family.

Dean Hunt
Outrageous Marketing for Remarkable Results

Top 50 double glazing websites

Sunday, August 9th, 2009

About 6 weeks ago I compiled a list of the top 50 conservatory and double glazing websites according to Alexa. Basically, Alexa ranks all websites in the world depending upon how much traffic the sites get.

The lower the Alexa rank, the more traffic a site gets. As a bit of an SEO geek I find this detail very interesting, so I have reworked the latest positions:

  • 1. everest.co.uk - 183,281 (Up 1)
  • 2. anglianhome.co.uk - 184,566 (Up 1)
  • 3. clearspan.co.uk - 211,659 (New Entry)
  • 4. safestyle-windows.co.uk - 280,879 (Up 1)
  • 5. evergladetrade.co.uk - 360,812 (Up 1)
  • 6. conservatoryoutlet.co.uk - 368,282 (No change)
  • 7. Quotatis.co.uk - 416,733 (Up 1)
  • 8. doorwarehouse.co.uk - 524,134 (Up 1)
  • 9. conservatoryland.com - 544,461 (Up 3 )
  • 10. conservatoriesonline.com - 629,131 (Up 1)
  • 11. zenithwindows.co.uk - 637,762 (Down 1)
  • 12. windowsanddoors.co.uk - 672,156 (Up 1)
  • 13. oakconservatories.co.uk - 720,437 (Up 2)
  • 14. eurocell.co.uk 758,688 – (No change)
  • 15 renegadeconservatoryguy.co.uk - 769,456 (Up 1)
  • 16. crystalclearideas.co.uk - 809,809 (New Entry)
  • 17. ultraframe-conservatories.co.uk - 834,707 (Up 9)
  • 18. weatherseal.co.uk - 853,947 (No Change)
  • 19. dscons.com - 885,056 (Up 16)
  • 20. tradeconservatories2u.co.uk - 919,762 (Down 3)
  • 21. sehbac.com - 941,686 (Up 2)
  • 22. windowstoday.co.uk - 957,989 (No Change)
  • 23. justdoorsuk.com - 994,356 (Up 11)
  • 24. foldingslidingdoors.com - 994,993 (Up 7)
  • 25. directconservatories4u.co.uk - 1,013,927 (Up 16)
  • 26. foldingdoors2u.co.uk - 1,042,829 (Down 2)
  • 27. westyorkshirewindows.co.uk - 1,061,633 (Down 2)
  • 28. alexanderwindows.com - 1,077,494 (Up14)
  • 29. QuoteMeLocal.co.uk - 1,088,773 (Up 8 )
  • 30. selectawindows.co.uk - 1,122,352 (New Entry)
  • 31. fensa.co.uk - 1,133,117 (Down 3)
  • 32. almostimpartialguide.co.uk - 1,151,469 (Down 13)
  • 33. timberwindows.com - 1,155,346 (Up 7)
  • 34. tradewindowsales.co.uk - 1,171,517 (Down 4)
  • 35. tradepriceconservatories.com - 1,206,591 (Up 1)
  • 36. theglazine.com - 1,215,233 (Down 15)
  • 37. planetsouthlakes.com - 1,220,655 (Up 8 )
  • 38. crystalwindows.co.uk - 1,249,748 (Up 2)
  • 39. conservatoryinfo.co.uk - 1,308,359 (Down 7)
  • 40. thewindowman.co.uk - 1,398,304 (New Entry)
  • 41. u-fit.co.uk - 1,403,271 (Down 3)
  • 42. valegardenhousesltd.com - 1,478,543 (New Entry)
  • 43. planetsouthlakes.com - 1,490,988 (Up 1)
  • 44. conservatorywindowdooroutlet.co.uk - 1,505,855 (Down 1)
  • 45. windowinfo.co.uk - 1,509,918 (Up 3 )
  • 46. greenwayupvc.com - 1,526,207 (Up 1)
  • 47. amdega.co.uk - 1,534,646 (New Entry)
  • 48. everglade.co.uk - 1,552,547 (New Entry)
  • 49. marston-and-langinger.com - 1,603,258 (New Entry)
  • 50. priceengines.co.uk - 1,604,093 (New Entry)
  • The main points to note are:

    There’s a few websites dropped out of the top 50, particularly Apropos and Breckenridge Conservatories (first and fourth last time). I’m not sure why these websites have dropped out of the Top 50, but assume that either Alexa had it wrong last time, or they were pushing PPC at the time, and have since cut back their spend.

    Strangely, a new website Clearspan has jumped straight into the top 3, but I’m confused by the Alexa ranking as the site is really bad, with few pictures and a lack of content. There’s a link to Apropos, the site which has dropped totally out of the Alexa rankings, so I can’t figure it out.

    The other high new entry crystalclearideas.co.uk confuses me as the website is pushing block paving, along with conservatories and they look like a small outfit.

    Otherwise, most of the main websites have not moved very much, with Everest now taking the honour as the most visited website in our industry, closely followed by Anglian. Safestyle as you would expect are also trying very hard to generate traffic online.

    Conservatory Outlet hasn’t changed it’s position, but RCG has climbed a place :-) I’m also pleased that 4 of our dealers are in the top 50 – greenwayupvc.com, westyorkshirewindows.co.uk, conservatorywindowdooroutlet.co.uk and planetsouthlakes.com.

    Another three of our sites are just outside the top 50 (but in the top 60) – conservatorytv.com, orion-windows.co.uk and theconservatoryoutlet.co.uk so more work is needed here…

    Top 50 double glazing and conservatory websites

    Tuesday, June 30th, 2009

    According to the Alexa Traffic Rank these are the 50 most visited websites in the conservatory, window and door industry in the UK:

  • 1. apropos-conservatories.com – 61,617
  • 2. everest.co.uk – 185,373
  • 3. anglianhome.co.uk/ – 190548
  • 4. breckenridgeconservatories.co.uk – 214,486
  • 5. safestyle-windows.co.uk – 280,597
  • 6. conservatoryoutlet.co.uk/ – 293112
  • 7. evergladetrade.co.uk – 302,614
  • 8. Quotatis.co.uk – 516,570
  • 9. doorwarehouse.co.uk - 546,606
  • 10. zenithwindows.co.uk – 606,070
  • 11. conservatoriesonline.com/ – 616,507
  • 12. conservatoryland.com/ – 664462
  • 13. windowsanddoors.co.uk – 719,766
  • 14. eurocell.co.uk/ – 756,718
  • 15. oakconservatories.co.uk – 802,956
  • 16. renegadeconservatoryguy.co.uk – 811,175
  • 17. tradeconservatories2u.co.uk - 854,095
  • 18. weatherseal.co.uk/ - 893,721
  • 19. almostimpartialguide.co.uk/ - 894,373
  • 20. windowquoter.co.uk – 897,126
  • 21. theglazine.com – 918,859
  • 22. windowstoday.co.uk – 928,766
  • 23. sehbac.com – 944,648
  • 24. foldingdoors2u.co.uk – 997,010
  • 25. westyorkshirewindows.co.uk/ – 1,015,443
  • 26. ultraframe-conservatories.co.uk – 1,040,515
  • 27. kent-conservatory.co.uk – 1,055,760
  • 28. fensa.co.uk – 1,089,990
  • 29. planetpvc.co.uk – 1,139,619
  • 30. tradewindowsales.co.uk – 1,142,518
  • 31. foldingslidingdoors.com – 1,150,586
  • 32. conservatoryinfo.co.uk/ – 1,163,482
  • 33. DoubleGlazingQuotes.com – 1,208,583
  • 34. justdoorsuk.com – 1,211,031
  • 35. dscons.com/ – 1,235,590
  • 36. tradepriceconservatories.com – 1,251,098
  • 37. QuoteMeLocal.co.uk – 1,264,405
  • 38. u-fit.co.uk/ - 1,278,505
  • 39. timberwindows.com – 1,347,765
  • 40. crystalwindows.co.uk – 1,410,163
  • 41. directconservatories4u.co.uk – 1,410,417
  • 42. alexanderwindows.com – 1,456,118
  • 43. conservatorywindowdooroutlet.co.uk – 1,464,903
  • 44. planetsouthlakes.com – 1,502,853
  • 45. conservatorytv.com – 1,558,117
  • 46. marston-and-langinger.com – 1,570,558
  • 47. greenwayupvc.com – 1,596,888
  • 48. windowinfo.co.uk – 1,607,896
  • 49. crsmith.co.uk – 1,627,204
  • 50. selfbuildconservatoriesuk.co.uk -1,628,809
  • Alexa Traffic Rank is a measure of a websites popularity. The rank is calculated using a combination of average daily visitors and page views over the past three months. The sites with the highest number of visitors and page views have the lowest scores, and these would be websites such as Google, Facebook, Youtube etc.

    Personally, I was surprised at the website coming up with the best Alexa Ranking, but I am aware Apropos have put a lot of effort into SEO. I was also pleasantly surprised to find Conservatory Outlet at #6 and RCG coming in at #16.

    I realise there are other factors to take into account when ranking websites, such as the sites ability to convert sales, the design of the site and it’s functionality. But, Alexa does give a good indication of those companies or organisations who are trying hardest to get their website seen by the public.

    It was a painstaking process compiling the list, and if I’ve missed any companies out then I’d like to hear from you…

    Interview with Colin Torley of Veka – part 3

    Sunday, May 17th, 2009

    In the third video of my interview with Colin Torley, the Sales and Marketing Director of Veka UK, we discuss among other things:

    1. Do systems companies communicate with each other, and would it be beneficial for the industry if they did.
    2. Pricing increases, raw material shortages and the differentials between uPVC profiles.
    3. Network Veka and how Veka differs from other system suppliers.

    Gordon Brown helps Crystal Windows sell conservatories

    Tuesday, March 24th, 2009

    An interesting article I found on the Crain’s Manchester Business website about an innovative way to sell conservatories in a recession.

    Crystal Windows in Cheshire have put a 6ft image of Gordon Brown in their showroom window:

    Gordon Brown

    Next to it, in quote marks are the words: “We are officially now in a recession. And Crystal is officially now doing some amazing deals on conservatories.”

    Underneath the “quotation” are the words: “Offer ends when this bloody recession ends”.

    Love it. Pure class!

    Hat’s off to Crystal Windows and Conservatories!

    Our rubbish marketing campaign

    Tuesday, March 10th, 2009

    I thought I’d share with you our new rubbish marketing campaign where we are targeting new Conservatory Outlet dealers.

    1. The first thing you need to do is research your potential customers. In our case we are looking for quality installation companies, that are financially sound, have a good reputation, a showroom, purchasing a minimum of 50 upvc frames per week, and located in the Midlands. We have identified 50 targets who should fulfil our strict criteria.

    2. You then need the following items:

    Wheelie bin 1

    50 x letters, 50 x jiffy bags, 50 x small plastic wheelie bins, and one black marker pen.

    3. You then scrunch the 50 letters up and shove them into the 50 plastic wheelie bins as shown. If you go for a slightly bigger plastic bin you could also include a banana skin and chocolate wrapper.

    Wheely2

    It’s vital that you get the wording of the letter correct. We’ve gone for the following:

    Dear Joe,

    There’s nothing worse when you’re really busy and you receive junk mail from suppliers trying to get your business. I’m sure most of the junk mail you receive goes straight in the bin.

    ………so, we’ve decided to save you the bother with this mail shot, and put the letter straight in the bin!

    I mean, why would you be interested in buying your frames from one of the few growing manufacturers in the UK, who is successful because their customers are growing.

    Why would you be interested in having a supplier who will give you a cracking website if you become a dealer, and then supply you with a regular supply of sales leads generated from our website www.conservatoryoutlet.co.uk?

    Why would you want a frame supplier who will try to help you generate leads from your own website, and help you with a complete marketing strategy to grow your business? Brochures, point of sale literature etc etc etc.

    And why would you be interested in also receiving highly competitive Synseal Synerjy frames, and group deals on ancillary items such as door panels, trims, sealed units etc.

    We’re really sorry we sent you this.

    Our apologies

    Regards

    Matthew Glover

    4. Using the black marker pen, write in very big, untidy handwriting the name of the person you are targeting and their company address. The more unprofessional you can make it, the more likely the target customer will find the package interesting:

    Wheeliebin3

    5. Put the wheelie bin in the jiffy bag:

    Wheelie4

    6. Finally, the completed package needs sending via Royal Mail (or other carrier) to your target customers. We’re sending 50 packages out today like this:

    Wheelie5

    If we get one decent customer out of it, then it won’t be rubbish at all. I’ll keep you informed…

    Abbey FM bans edgy Planet South Lakes radio ad – then goes bust

    Tuesday, February 17th, 2009

    I thought I’d tell you today about a real tale of how to shoot yourself in the foot.

    One of our dealers Planet South Lakes have been running a few slightly cheeky radio ads in their local area to good effect. One of the ads, though was deemed to be too ‘edgy’ by one station Abbey FM.

    To hear the radio advert click here and see what you think.

    The guys at Planet South Lakes were quite rightly frustrated with the station, as Lakeland Radio and Bay Radio were happy to run the advert, so they pulled all other adverts from the station as a result.

    According to one of the comments on the Conservatory Outlet blog:

    And subsequently Abbey Fm folded! Talk about shooting yourself in the foot or biting the hand that feeds! Planet were Abbey’s biggest (in revenue terms) advertiser.

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