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How do you sell conservatories?

Wednesday, January 27th, 2010

Guest Post by Andy McCafferty

I just thought I would try to get a feel for how different companies are going about their every day selling.

As I have said before on this blog, I was brought up in the hard nosed sell on the night or you don’t sell at all school, I have mellowed and adapted over the years as the buying public have become a lot more direct sales savvy.

When selling conservatories I rarely try to sell on the first visit, I rely on a totally professional approach and unless the customer is almost asking me to sell to them there and then I spend about an hour finding out what they want, suggesting more practical options in most cases, finding out what they want from their proposed conservatory, discussing roof materials, heating etc… I then go away, prepare a quote and either do a second visit or e-mail the quote, spec etc and follow up.

If they have had other quotes I often completely change the design and even dimensions of their proposed conservatory (it is amazing how often the customer has been quoted for something that won’t even fit in the designated area or can’t practically be built), thereby taking away the like for like quote thing that customers use to justify going with a company £3.5k cheaper than your quote (that happened to me tonight, customer has convinced himself that he is getting like for like at £16.5k when I was £20.5k, obviously my ploy didn’t work this time, seriously it can’t be done for £16.5K, buyer beware!).

Anyway my point is I still present my product be it in the customers house, in the showroom or in an existing customers house/conservatory that I have taken them to see.

I also do an e-mail presentation to them using GOLD MAIL, this is a fantastic tool which allows me to send a customer slides of conservatory designs, technical stuff if required, specifications etc, I can send the slides and talk over them to explain what is written and expand on it.

I take leads from various web sites like Price Engines, Quotatis, Best Quotes and Leads to Trade, there is a lot of rubbish amongst them but I sell about 1:3, from the other lead sources like recommendations etc I sell 2:3.

Click on this link http://www.goldmail.com/ (hope that works) to get an idea of how Gold mail works, please excuse the mumbling but you don’t really want to sound too slick when you send a Gold Mail, it wants to sound natural.

My point is, do I go over the top with presentation? Are there a number of potential buyers that are going to buy on price no matter how good your presentation is?

Is there an optimum amount of effort and professionalism we should use to try to get business? I know a lot depends upon lead sources but just wondered what other peoples views were on this subject.

Cheers Andy

Will the cold spell increase energy efficiency?

Saturday, January 23rd, 2010

If the recent cold period doesn’t jolt homeowners into necessary energy efficiency measures, nothing will, according to experts.

RICS which has a Royal Charter that obliges it to act in the public interest, says there are thousands of homes in the UK without sufficient measures in place to ensure energy efficiency, leaving them exposed to freezing conditions.

The organisation, whose members include energy assessors and building control officers, says that these homes will have experienced a significant increase in their energy bills as a result of the cold weather.

Personally, I can’t wait for all those gas bills to start landing on door mats!!

Obviously, the easiest solution for homeowners will be cheaper solutions such as loft insulation, although I do feel that demand for double glazing will improve. I’ve shown Google Trends graphs before, as I do feel they give an indication of demand in the UK, and it certainly looks to me like more people are looking for both loft insulation and double glazing this January, compared to last January.

loft insulation double glazing

Maybe, just maybe, it’s going to a good year for the window industry. I have a different point of view for conservatories, but I’ll develop my thoughts there in a different post.

Should I close down my double glazing company?

Monday, January 18th, 2010

should I close down my company

I received the following email from a lady who runs a double glazing company:

I’m a regular reader of your blogs etc, they keep me amused as I open my mail to endless bills and bad debts.

I’m the owner of a small double glazing company. I don’t fabricate windows anymore just sealed units.

This year has been a struggle to say the least and I’m finding it more and more difficult to survive. I kind of took the company over from a friend of mine to start with and sometimes (well most of the times) wished I was a bored housewife again, no, I jest, daytime tv is appauling. Lol

I have gone round in circles for the last year, downsized premises, staff etc and to no avail.

When would you say it’s time to throw the towel in? I figure that if I get the same answer from enough people it might help me make a decision. It’s either that or toss a coin. Lol

I often get people contacting for general advice, but obviously this one is far more important than many of the request I receive. I’d be interested to hear what readers of this website feel, but below are my thoughts:

General Economy

This is clearly the toughest time of the year for our industry, which has been made far worse with the weather we’ve experienced over the past four weeks. I would expect far more companies in our industry to be suffering poor cash flow, and directors up and down the country thinking ‘I’ve had enough!’.

In many respects, it is good for the industry if a few of these companies do pack in, as we’re in an industry with massive over capacity and falling margins. However, in this instance, I have to assume the lady is made of sterner stuff, otherwise she would not have made contact.

The positive news on the economy is that things are picking up, and the coldest weather the UK has experienced for a generation will have a positive effect on double glazing sales as a result. So, I would suggest not panicking at this stage, and try ride it out.

Pricing

I would recommend trying to get out of the price led marketing, and try selling on quality and service.

It is very unusual to see any company in our industry surviving in the long run when they compete at the bottom end of the market. This means looking at the marketing and advertising to ensure the image is right, and the overall company ethos may need to change.

Sealed Units

I don’t know too much about the company, but I would look at the viability of producing sealed units. There’s dozens of manufacturers out there with economies of scale that could supply sealed units at highly competitive rates.

I’d be looking at the overhead currently going into making sealed units, and the material costs. Then I’d be looking at how much it would cost to buy in the equivalent production, and I’m pretty confident that manufacturing low volumes of sealed units would not pay.

Overheads

Even though the lady has mentioned that she has already downsized the business, I’d still be looking at the overhead of the business in detail.

Every company should understand what the break even position is, and ideally scrutinise their monthly management accounts. I’d be recommending trying to create a more flexible sales force and installation department, so as sales increase people can be drafted in, but when things are tough they can be let go. It sounds really tough, but carrying too high an overhead figure through lean months is one of the reasons many companies fail.

I must stress that every company MUST understand their financial situation, and I don’t just mean how much money is in the bank (or otherwise). Financial forecasts should be in place, with sales targets, targets for Gross Profit, Overhead targets, cash flow forecasts and crucially net profit targets. Every job should be costed out prior to installation, and after installation, so lessons can be learned for future trading. For example, is the company selling porches consistently too cheap, and is the profit per day good enough from roofline jobs. It is vital that companies look at the profit per day / overhead recovery per fitting team.

Adminbase software from Ab Initio has an excellent job costing facility. In fact, without looking like I’m promoting another company, I would highly recommend Adminbase to anyone who wants a well run window company.

Sales

It goes without saying that the company has to bring the sales in. I don’t know what marketing / advertising is in place, but I would guess this will need looking at if the situation has got to considering closing down.

Personally, I wouldn’t waste money in traditional media where you are competing with all the price led, low margin installation companies. I’d be tempted to work hard on service levels so more recommendations are generated. Mailshot your existing customers with some special offers. Look at your website. Internet Marketing is the modern day ‘garlic bread’.

Conversion Rates

Are the sales staff converting at the right levels? It might be that they haven’t been supplied with the right tools and knowledge to compete against more proactive competitors, or it might be that they’re just not good enough. Are you getting support from your suppliers on the marketing front? Maybe you need to look at buying frames from a company who help you convert business, and even helps generate you leads?

If your sales team is not converting at more than 50% and selling products at a good margin, then there is lots of room for improvement. You might need to make some tough decisions here.

Conclusion

It might be that things have got to a point where you cannot continue any further. You might need to speak with your suppliers and discuss your situation. They would probably be far happier accepting stage payments for the debt, in the knowledge that you have a plan to turn things around, rather than you leaving them with a bad debt.

I also do not know what the alternatives you have if you were to close the business. What else would you do?

All I would say is that there have been times in the past where I have questioned whether it’s worth continuing. I have always rolled my sleeves up and got stuck in. And, I’m glad I did, because there was light at the end of the tunnel.

Should you throw the towel in?

Well, I wouldn’t, I’d put the hours in, get some good advice and try turn things around.

Google Adwords ….. FAIL!

Friday, January 15th, 2010

It is quite common to see companies wasting money by not setting up their sponsored listings campaigns correctly.

But, I was a bit surprised to see the following advert on Youtube when I typed in ‘conservatories’:

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Happy New Year ???

Monday, January 11th, 2010

I’ll supply a write up about Cycle India when I get a minute, but I just wanted to touch base with everyone about the weather.

I’ve come back to a window factory running at half capacity. We’d normally expect a slow start in the first week or two, but the severe weather conditions have seriously affected fitting.

I’ve spoken with a number of our installers, and they were all badly affected last week with the weather. Conservatory bases were virtually impossible to build with the ground frozen, and that is assuming the builders could get to site. Window installations seem to have been tricky also, with customers being quite rightly concerned about windows being pulled out in such inclement weather. One of our dealers suggested they are installing downstairs windows and doors this week, but can’t do upstairs windows as it’s too dangerous putting ladders up.

It has also been tricky getting to site to measure new work, or even quote new work. I suspect that installation departments throughout the UK are currently battling away trying to reschedule jobs, and keep customers happy.

I suspect that this bad weather could well be the final nail in the coffin for some companies in our industry, who may well have just clung on after Christmas, but not being able to fit has seriously affected cash flow at the hardest time of the year.

I certainly cannot remember a cold period like this in my life time, and have certainly never witnessed such delays to installation schedules.

The good news is that new leads seem to be very brisk as you would expect. And, I feel that this cold snap could just be a blessing in disguise as in the Spring consumers may reflect on the winter period, and consider upgrading to more energy efficient windows.

How has your company been affected by the weather?

How was your 2009?

Monday, December 21st, 2009

There’s no doubt that 2009 has been another tough year for those involved in the uPVC window, door and conservatory market. There’s been various reports suggesting the market has contracted by around one third over the last couple of years, with the conservatory market being particularly badly affected. I believe that the industry has effectively been in recession for six years, and even a major depression over the last couple of years.

Not surprisingly companies have found trading conditions particularly tough, with many ceasing trading, and many cutting back on staff. You just need to look at the decline of Glassex as proof of the decline of an industry.

So, how was your 2009? What do you expect for the year ahead? In fact, what do you expect for the next decade?

These are my thoughts:

Well, I think 2009 has been my best ever year in business.

As the recession started to take hold in the early Autumn of 2008, we took a number of difficult decisions at West Yorkshire Windows and Conservatory Outlet. The main decision we took was that we realised we were no good at making sealed units and couldn’t see a profitable future for our glass division – so we shut it down. We made a few cutbacks with staff in other areas (some of the decisions we took were very tough) and we looked at our whole overhead structure in detail. I suppose you could call it a ‘restructuring’ and with hindsight it was what was needed.

We began 2009 far leaner and more efficient than previous years and as a result we have traded very profitably at both companies, despite the recession. West Yorkshire Windows has achieved a 20% increase in sales on the year before with a good split of windows, doors and conservatory business. The sales team have been particularly strong this year with a conversion success rate of 57% of all appointments sat. This was achieved mainly through better conversion rates of windows and doors than previous years.

Conservatory Outlet has also seen consistent growth of around 20%, which has mainly been achieved from existing dealers growing their businesses, rather than taking on new dealers. I’m particularly pleased by the fact that a couple of companies that joined our network at the back end of last year, have had 50% and 80% growth respectively themselves. Every one of my top 8 dealers achieved growth in 2009.

I didn’t really mention it on this blog, but Andrew and I separated the two businesses during this year. I now own entirely Conservatory Outlet Ltd and Andrew is fully in charge of West Yorkshire Windows. We’ve worked together successfully for 16 years now, and are looking forward to continuing to do so in the future. But we feel by focussing on our own businesses 100%, we will make both businesses more successful, and the early signs are that we took the right decision. Despite spending most of my business life on the domestic side, I find that I’m far more comfortable dealing with trade customers, rather than retail customers. To be honest, they’re far more reaonable on the whole.

I’m pleased with the way this blog has performed this year also. There’s been a number of times I’ve questioned whether I should keep writing all this stuff, culminating with my cry for help with this post. I’m now fully committed to keep going with the website, and as you can see from the viewing figures, people clearly keep coming back.

rcg2009

At the time of writing there are 363 people who have chosen to receive my regular spam emails in their inboxes.

I hope to develop RCG over the next twelve months and try to improve on the quality and relevance of the content.

This year has also been interesting as a result of my involvement with the GlassTalk event. During the year I’ve met and become friends with two of this industry’s real gentlemen – Paul Godwin and Jon Twigge. Along with my brother Andrew, we’re an unlikely quartet, but we seem to have pulled off a unique industry networking event on two occassions, and more events are planned. Watch this space.

I’ve also enjoyed my time working with the charity Heal. I ventured to India for two weeks in the summer with some other volunteers to see the good work, and help plan for Cycle India.

As the Head of Fundraising I’ve been keeping my eye on the Heal website, and the decision to get Motionlab to rebuild the site has paid off with far more people coming forward to sponsor children and support the charity in various ways. Many thanks to Steve Ormand for working on the Heal website free of charge all year – it’s been a real help! I’m looking forward to going back to India on New Years Day to take part in Cycle India. Many thanks to all the people who have sponsored me for the bike ride on my Just Giving page. More donations are very welcome!

I’m frustrated that I don’t spend more of my time working on Heal projects and hope that over the coming years I can get even more involved as its such a worthy cause.

So what about 2010?

Once I’ve got Cycle India out of the way, then I’ll be able to put my full attention back into business.

The factory has been pretty much at full capacity this year, but over the last couple of months we’ve invested in new machinery, including an extra Rapid cutting and prepping centre. We’ve now got the luxury of a bit more room for growth, so I’m hoping to grow in 2010 at a similar rate to 2009. We’ve been averaging around 800-850 frames per week this year, and I’d like to think we can be doing more like 1000 frames per week during next year.

Over the last couple of weeks we’ve started manufacturing composite doors. This has been a market I’ve pretty much ignored until now, with all my dealers buying composite doors from other suppliers. The intension is to get natural growth from existing customers with this value added product.

I’ve been a bit quiet in the trade press since September 2008, but you’re likely to see a lot more of Conservatory Outlet in 2010 with a series of press releases planned, showing the progress of Conservatory Outlet and its dealers.

We’re hoping to take on two or three good Conservatory Outlet dealers in areas we don’t currently have coverage. It’s not easy identifying the right calibre of installation company as we have reasonably strict criteria. A dealer has to have a nice showroom, be well established, financially sound, work to high standards, and purchase a good amount of frames. And I’m looking for commitment from a dealer as we invest thousands in a new website for them, point of sale literature, and more importantly lots of time. It will also be a challenge as the Conservatory Outlet brand is strong in the North of England and Wales, but we’re less well known in our target areas in the South and the Midlands.

I genuinely believe that no other trade fabricator does as much for their installers as Conservatory Outlet.

We’ve had a good year for generating leads from the internet and TV advertising, so the focus will be on developing these advertising mediums further. We’ll be targeting 20,000 internet leads in 2010 with these leads distributed throughout the network. The concept is simple: if the dealers have plenty of sales leads then our factory will be busy.

Christmas

I may have given the impression that I’m not too keen on Christmas. Well, I do feel that we over hype the occasion and it is simply very bad for business. However, I do feel ready for a break and am looking forward to spending time with my family, and away from work. And then there’s Cycle India rapidly approaching, so I’ll be off work for 18 days.

I intend this to be the last post of this year (although, I reserve the right to add more posts if I get bored over the festive period). By the way, Dave Bingham from Conservatoryland has kindly agreed to run my website while I’m in India. As always, I’m keen to hear from anyone interested in supplying guest posts in the New Year.

I’m keen that this blog is not just about me. It has regularly been suggested that it is not what I write that is interesting, but it is the banter between readers that makes this site worth coming back to. Please do not be frightened to share your views in 2010.

Finally, I would like to wish you the very best Christmas, and a happy New Year, and I’ll see you in the next decade.

Saint Gobain visit – and why I should have taken the time

Monday, December 21st, 2009

Guest post by Ted Urpens

Hi Matthew – thought I would update you on the visit to Saint Gobain’s factory at Eggborough on Friday – initiated at the recent Glass Talk event. You might want to use it as a guest posting on your Blog – bit of a dig in places.

There were just four of us brave souls, battling severe weather conditions, who turned up from all corners of the UK at Saint Gobain’s float glass factory in Eggborough on Friday. The visit, to learn more about glass, was as a result of Dr Alan McLenaghan’s invitation to all those who attended the recent Glass Talk event. The invite came after Alan was “grilled on the couch” about possible collusion by the glass manufacturers (Alan handled the insinuations and questions exceedingly well don’t you think?).

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It was a shame that only four of us managed to either find the time or battle the weather? I am reliably informed that the Friday before Christmas isn’t the best time for people in the conservatory, glass and window business – mmmm! But never fear another event is planned for the new year – probably not a good time – the new year!!

My take on the day? – fascinating, instructive and thought provoking! Driving up to the building is a statement in it’s own right and from the moment you arrive its clear this is not just another factory. From Mark Harrison’s welcome through to the tour of the float glass and coating processes to the superb presentation by Susan Lambeth, the whole operation meets and exceeds Alan’s claim to being “World Class”. I wondered why he was so keen to show of “his” facility and now I know. So much passion from those I met and for a plant that turns out 600 tons of glass a day, hardly anyone there! And lunch, enough for the planned 20 was great – just so much!

Following the visit, it got me thinking about the perennial problem from which the conservatory industry suffers, particularly after I read this weekends blog from the “bearded lady” who rants about how useless conservatories are. And the perennial problem is, the misconception by some that to survive you have to sell the cheapest, least specified product possible. Having been around the conservatory industry for some time it seems to me that some companies suggest and sell specific designs of conservatories and specify certain features because it makes life easier for their company. Easier on installation, less hassle to source some of the complementary products that would allow a customer to get full benefit from their purchase. The end result is a “bike store” (back to the bearded lady!) In some instances, what’s sold is not really about what the customer wants or what is the most appropriate for the customer but what’s easier for the salesperson and easier for the business.

Anyway back to the visit and glass and what prompted these words. With the inclusion of conservatories of all sizes, not just those over 30 sqaure metres to the requirements of Part L in October of next year, isn’t it right for every customers to be “sold” the right type of glass in the roof and the side walls of the conservatory – NOW? A specification to meet and exceed the requirements of Part L. Why would any retailer of conservatories be selling a product which will not meet the basic building requirements in less than a year? If customers knew about Part L wouldn’t they want a fully specified product? And why wouldn’t all conservatories have some form of self cleaning glass? Why wouldn’t all conservatories be sold with glass that keeps the heat out in summer? In areas where noise is a problem, why wouldn’t a noise reducing solution be offered. Why wouldn’t a suitable heating solution and appropriate insulation in the floor be fitted. Its all available – NOW! But I think I know the answer – perceived cost resistance.

The validity of a conservatory, as solution to customers requirements sits firmly with the people who sell conservatories and not with those who buy them. Everyone in the industry needs a better understanding of what is available to make a conservatory a true “twelve month a year living experience”. It needs education and formal training for the people who go out and sell conservatories and dare I say it – it needs some true professional selling skills. To get the buy-in from the people selling conservatories, it might be an idea for them to take a trip to Eggborough. But before then – it all starts at the top. It might be an idea for conservatory company owners to have a look first!

Many thanks to Alan McLenaghan and his great team at Saint Gabain Glass for a great day.

Ted Urpens
Experience: The Difference

Why are conservatories so shit?

Saturday, December 19th, 2009

It seems as an industry we have more work to do to get all the British public on our side. The following text forms part of a blog post from a lady living in the Brighton area. The headline for this post is taken from the tag she uses on her post.

Enjoy:

Don’t get me started on the subject of conservatories. I loathe them. Not real ones obv. Real ones that were made by real people with the real purpose of growing plants are lovely. No. It is the pretend ones I cannot stand. The ones that estate agents try to sell me as a winsome feature of a house and which are supposed to denote class, style and taste. Bollocks to it. I shout, waving my fist with bits of spit flecking off my fledgling beard hair. They are expensive, invariably faulty, incredibly ugly (sticking out like UPVC buboes on a plaguey armpit), and always end up as a space where you:

  • stick the dog when visitors come round, which means that it smells of dog all year round, rendering it totally uninhabitable by everyone else but the dog.
  • stick the children’s toys because there is nowhere else to put them and you are sick of falling over them in the lounge. Now they are wedged in the conservatory, which is basically a giant, see through toy box and you pass it every day wondering what on earth possessed you to pay out shedloads of money for such a monumental waste of plastic tat (and the toys)
  • stick the garden furniture to stop it disintegrating in the rain until the summer. Then it rains all summer, so it becomes a giant, see through garden shed instead.
  • pretend that it is ‘your’ space, so you fill it with things like easels, and exercise bikes and ski equipment and yoga mats for when you finally get around to pampering yourself and having some ‘me’ time. Then you pass it every day as you run backwards and forwards smothering chicken nuggets in tomato sauce, and wiping arses, and singing the third verse to ‘O Little Town of Bethlehem’ in descant, and elucidating ten facts about the Egyptian afterlife, and it just taunts you as the cobwebs festoon the bars of the exercise bike and you guiltily wipe sauce off your face.
  • pretend that it is going to look like Andy McDowell’s conservatory in Green Card, by buying four hundred lobelias from B&Q in those small black plastic pots and putting them in there to overwinter before you bed them out in the spring, promising yourself a ‘riot of colour’. What happens is that they freeze all night and roast all day and after three days in the conservatory you appear to have re-enacted on bedding plants, the scorched earth policy of the US government when faced with the dilemma of the lush, Vietnamese jungle, only without having to resort to Agent Orange. You buy a rubber plant, just like the ones in the doctor’s surgery. Failsafe. It sits in a wicker plant holder, covered in dust and for some inexplicable reason smelling of cat wee. After several weeks you realise that you have failed to water it. It does not matter. It will not die. It sits there leering at you. You start to get paranoid about it. It is thinking about how horrible you have been to it. No amount of Baby Bio and leaf shine will rectify things. You know that it is secretly shuffling about the conservatory at nights, spawning and hatching plots. Eventually you know that it will rise up and kill you in your bed. Just like the triffids. You should destroy it. On the other hand, it is quiet now, probably best not to disturb it. You can no longer go into the conservatory. It is a war zone.
  • That is why I don’t like conservatories. And more proof that we English are rubbish at building things to live in.

    When the Romans introduced underfloor heating, interior decor and baths with hot running water, what did we do? We waited until they went home and turned their villas into pig sties while we sat, freezing our bollocks off in a house that even the two most stupid of the three little pigs would have been mortally ashamed of, that were basically made of cow shit and straw. We are idiots.

    I am thinking of moving to Scandinavia. I can have a lovely warm house and run about all day long wearing mink bikinis and throwing the children into pools of scalding water heated by volcanos, paying 2p per year for my fuel bills and spending the rest on Amazon orders and Ikea furniture. The downside would be learning to love rollmop herrings, but I could adapt.

    I’m wondering whether she might be interested in one of our UPVC orangeries instead. I’ll happily go give her a quote, especially if she puts one of those mink bikinis on for me.

    Easy Fit in Administration.

    Saturday, December 12th, 2009

    Two years ago, I wrote a piece on RCG entitled ‘Why Sell Conservatories Cheap?’ I was concerned at the time that the Easy Fit pricing policy was unsustainable.

    I suppose it was only a matter of ‘when’ and not ‘if’ the Easy Fit model would collapse, like the previous company that traded from the premises in Walsall – Tailor Made Conservatories. The latest news in the Express and Star confirms that the company has gone into administration:

    http://www.expressandstar.com/2009/12/11/easy-fit-in-1m-crisis/

    Interestingly, there are a number of comments on the webpage with one customer grumbling that they’ve lost their deposit.

    Whilst it is bad news for those suppliers, staff and customers who will lose out in this instance (especially just before Christmas), I cannot help but feel that this is good news for the conservatory market in the West Midlands. Easy Fit (and previously Tailor Made) have been guilty of single handedly depressing average conservatory prices in the area to unsustainable levels. As I travel around the UK visiting conservatory companies, the market price in the West Midlands has been far lower than elsewhere.

    As an industry, we’ve got to get away from selling fully installed conservatories for £5000 – £6000.

    No doubt there will be more to hear from this story as suppliers try to find the best way to recoup their lost money, and I don’t want to get involved in speculation here. In other words, I will be heavilly moderating comments on this post.

    But, any general comments about selling conservatories in such an unsustainable way will be most welcome…

    More Christmas madness

    Tuesday, December 8th, 2009

    I don’t want to keep harping on about Christmas, but I just can’t help it.

    The guys from David Gibson Conservatories in Northern Ireland have just sent me this picture:

    ChristmasTree

    Apparently, the Christmas tree has to stay in place while the guys build a conservatory base around it!

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